Delta Turns Flight Around After Passengers Refuse to Wear Masks

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 07/27/2020 at 12:46 • Filed to: wingspan

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K udos to Delta for making a policy and sticking with it.

The plane took off from Detroit for a flight to Atlanta, and when the passengers refused to comply with the instructions from the flight attendant to wear a mask , the pilot turned the plane around.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-turns-flight-around-after-multiple-passengers-refuse-to-wear-masks/ar-BB17cATE?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds

Delta is also calling BS on people who claim to have a medical condition that keeps them from wearing a mask. If a passenger claims an exemption, they must complete a telephone interview by STAT-MD, a company that “provides inflight emergency consultation as well as fitness-to-fly ground screening. ”

The way I see it, this is more than Delta ensuring the safety of other passengers. They are ensuring the health of their entire business.

Darkbrador > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 12:51

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Not sure of the details, but it seems like a giant waste of time and $ : is Delta they letting people boarding without a mask, or did a passenger wearing mask decide to take it off while in flight  ?

ttyymmnn > Darkbrador 07/27/2020 at 13:00

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Yes, more details needed. Agreed it was an expensive choice, but don’t make a policy unless you are prepared to enforce it. 

Cé hé sin > Darkbrador 07/27/2020 at 13:03

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I'd guess the latter.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:05

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This whole thing sounds like it went down like a standoff between a dad and a toddler on a roadtrip .

Consider your bluff called, you ignorant prick (the passenger, not the toddler).

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 07/27/2020 at 13:06

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And for once, the dad won. 

HammerheadFistpunch > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:07

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I love the medical exemption bit. the reasons for not being able to tolerate a mask are few and sever enough that you probably ought not to be flying. In the event you do have a condition and NEED to fly, it’ s a PITA, but it does allow you to actually do it.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:10

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FO was like “Hon, I know you’re mad, but can’t we just let it go so we can have a nice flight?”

Captain: “I’m tired of letting things go, they need to learn a lesson!”

HANDBRAKE TURN IN THE SKY

HammerheadFistpunch > Darkbrador 07/27/2020 at 13:11

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From what Im hearing, people will put it on, sit down, and then refuse to keep it on either full or part way...or to quickly slip it on when the attendant comes by hoping no one will rat them out.

A coworker of mine was on a flight recently this happened on. The person refused to wear it, then was told “you are required to wear it, do I need to go and get someone?” at which point she wore it, but only when the attendant was looking.

These people are hoping to call the airlines bluff. Delta made the right call as it’ s a reminder to people that they aren’t bluffing. I don’t want to be stuck somewhere with no options but to breath someone else’ s potentially deadly air simply because they want to make a point or it makes it a little stuffy for them .

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:12

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DON’T MAKE ME TURN THIS PLANE AROUND!

TheRealBicycleBuck > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:17

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This is fantastic. These people  need to be shamed into doing what’s right.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > HammerheadFistpunch 07/27/2020 at 13:17

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Yeah, like you are somehow perfectly able to walk through the terminal without passing out and yet you aren't able to sit in a seat with slight discomfort only perceptible because you choose to dwell on it, so you don't have a medical condition. 

shop-teacher > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:18

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TheRealBicycleBuck > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:20

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We always stood ready to abandon whatever task we were doing in order to enforce our rules. If it was both of us, one would remove the child from the situation and the other would keep going. If it was one of us alone, the child would be removed from the situation. Several shopping carts were abandoned over the years . Our apologies to the owners of the establishments.

ttyymmnn > TheRealBicycleBuck 07/27/2020 at 13:21

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They need to be sent the bill. 

Thomas Donohue > Ash78, voting early and often 07/27/2020 at 13:24

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Also, flight was going to Atlanta.  Any reason to turn around is a good one.

Ash78, voting early and often > Thomas Donohue 07/27/2020 at 13:26

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Well, to be fair, 80% of Delta planes in the sky at any time are headed to Atlanta. It defies statistical logic.

RacinBob > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:38

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Flying is enough of an exposure risk as it is. Not wanting to be the guy next to the maskless guy with the quiet (its just an alergy) cough.

Darkbrador > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:47

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100% agree with the policy, just curious how that unfolded.

If you can wear a mask to board, then take it off, it’s a case of sabotage. Y ou should be charged with the extra fuel used for the whole plane flying back to the departure gate. That’d teach’em ...

HammerheadFistpunch > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:49

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as far as I remember reading, this person should now be banned from Delta for life as per their policy.  That stinks

Darkbrador > Ash78, voting early and often 07/27/2020 at 13:51

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I guess Maverick finally got to fly   rubber dog sh%t passenger planes to ATL ...

ranwhenparked > Ash78, voting early and often 07/27/2020 at 13:52

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The people that do this probably grew up with parents who always bluffed and never followed through on punishments. Guess it's never too late to learn.

ttyymmnn > RacinBob 07/27/2020 at 13:55

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You mean like this guy?

ttyymmnn > Darkbrador 07/27/2020 at 13:56

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Agreed. Send them a bill. Delta needs the cash.

ranwhenparked > HammerheadFistpunch 07/27/2020 at 13:56

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Realistically, yeah, with a severe lower respiratory virus going around, if you really can’t handle wearing a face mask for awhile, you probably really shouldn’t be out of the house at all right now.

For the rest of us, yeah, they're annoying, they ride up constantly, trap heat, and make you break out in acne (which, at least, no one can see, because of the mask). But, suck it up, wear it when you have to, take it off as soon as you don't (e.g., when you get back to your own car or house). On the plus side, they do make you look younger, apparently, I've been getting carded more frequently since the rule went into effect. 

ranwhenparked > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 13:57

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Basically, doing what they should have been doing all along for “ emotional support llamas” and the like. Got a legit medical need? Then you should have no trouble proving it, or gtfo. 

Grindintosecond > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:00

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Stat md is the go to for inflight medical emergencies until they can get on the ground. Thorough folks. I’ve used them once before, luckily only once. 

CompactLuxuryFan > HammerheadFistpunch 07/27/2020 at 14:04

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What stinks? Airlines should share their ban lists! Stinks for everyone else on the flight!

BaconSandwich is tasty. > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:07

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Alternatively: we need to make it legal for passengers to deliver beatings to fellow passengers who aren’t following the rules.

Good on Delta for sticking to the rules.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:13

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What?! the Zodiac killer is still alive, and free?

HammerheadFistpunch > CompactLuxuryFan 07/27/2020 at 14:22

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oh I agree. I don’t mean to sound sympathetic but being banned from an airline should be sufficiently painful to discourage this kind of behaviour.  

newnamesameme > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:38

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rules are for other ppl is the iron law of humanity, sadly

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:42

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Good.

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:48

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I count my blessings every day

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:49

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You are permitted to remove the mask for food and drink

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 14:49

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IF YOU DON’T PUT ON YOUR MASK I’M TURNING THIS PLANE AROUND!!!

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > Thomas Donohue 07/27/2020 at 14:58

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Coulda been worse. Like Newark. 

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 15:00

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Stick them with the landing fee too. Asswipes. 

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 15:03

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How great would this be?

“Ladies and gentlemen, due to the insufferable prick in 18B refusing to wear a mask per regulations , the captain is turning the aircraft around and we will be arriving back in Detroit in 45 minutes. Feel free to express your feelings to this misguided young man at your convenience . ”

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 15:04

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Now THERE’S a cropdusting target for ya...

ttyymmnn > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 07/27/2020 at 15:55

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Make em sit on the wing. 

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 07/27/2020 at 16:03

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Sounds like plane spotting at DFW.

“Oh look, an American A321.”

“Oh look, an American A321.”

“Oh look, an American A321.”

“Oh look, an American A321.”

“Oh look, an American A321.”

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 16:16

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Every time I look at Kayak or Google Flights from BHM to anywhere in the western US, it’s always through DFW.

( Or Hobby for SWA, but that’s a separate search because Southwest doesn’t play silly games with travel aggregators .)

I don’t mind it...sure beats ATL, CLT, or ORD. I fundamentally hate going in the wrong direction to my final destination, it’s just a pet peeve.

Moltenburn > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 16:30

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You misspelled prick

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 07/27/2020 at 16:56

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Southwest also does not fly to DFW. They only fly to Love Field (DAL). When booking American from Austin, you have to fly to DFW first. I once tried booking direct from Dallas, thinking I could drive up there to save some money. The price was the same, with or without the AUS-DFW leg.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 07/27/2020 at 16:59

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Good old Wright Amendment...sheesh.

Yes, BHM is often like that with ATL on Delta. 2.5 hours of driving, or a 40 minute flight (which is still 2.5 hours with local traffic and TSA). The time and cost is basically a wash, but sometimes you can get lucky and find things cheaper from the smaller airport, despite the fact that more fuel is used and more crew hours are spent. Totally illogical, but they want to fill those seats.

Thomas Donohue > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 07/27/2020 at 17:12

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Newark is better than both Detroit and Atlanta.

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > Thomas Donohue 07/27/2020 at 17:34

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Detroit maybe (never been there) but Atlanta? 

Thomas Donohue > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 07/27/2020 at 17:43

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Eh....been there many times, just not a destination for me. Prefer to see this when I look out the window when I land.

Though, there is a new PEC right near ATL, so you do have that over the NYC area.

Taylor Martin > ttyymmnn 07/28/2020 at 17:35

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“I swear to god if you don’t put on that mask I will turn this plane around”